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Is It Possible To Get Gluten From The Dishwasher?

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niese Explorer
niese
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I have my own set of pots and pans which I only cook gluten free in them and I wash them by hand separate from anything else plus my cooking utensils.  However I wash my plates, cups, glasses and silverware in the dishwasher along with gluten dishes ect.  Am I asking for trouble using the dishwasher this way? After I wash my pots and pans then I wash the pots and pans that were used for gluten.  Just want to make sure I am safe since I live with gluten eaters and I am the only gluten free person in the house.  Which I keep my food separate and cook separate from gluten food.

 

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IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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I honestly cannot see how if the dishwasher is in good working condition.

 

I have eaten at people's houses who are not celiacs and in restaurants where certainly, the dishes are washed with plates that once held gluteny foods and I have never felt ill from it.

 

Someone else who lives with gluten eaters in their homes may pipe in here and offer their thoughts as well..

kareng Grand Master
kareng
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I live with gluten and the people who eat it.  We use the same dishes, forks, etc run thru the dishwasher. 

notme Experienced
notme
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ditto - i share dishes with gluten eaters and all is well - and our dishwasher *sucks*  :lol:

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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See, I told you they'd show up. :D

niese Explorer
niese
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Thanks everyone I thought I was safe with the dishwasher, just wanted to make sure. :)

dilettantesteph Collaborator
dilettantesteph
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I would have to say that it depends on how good your dishwasher is and how  sensitive you are to what levels of gluten.  If you aren't experiencing symptoms, don't worry about it.  If you are experiencing symptoms, try washing all you dishes by hand and see if it makes a difference.

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notme Experienced
notme
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and i think exactly the opposite.  you're talking high speed high temp water, here.  my dishwasher is TERRIBLE and i am sensitive (we are celiacs, aren't we all sensitive to gluten?) and i would eat off of dishes out of a dishwasher hands down any day of the week over dishes washed by hand.  hands down.  any,  day, of.  the. week.  i have friends who eat gluten and hand wash their dishes sometimes.  i don't like to eat off of their dishes but never got sick off of them.  that is my ca-rayy-zy opinion.  at restaurants, when i ever eat at them, i like my wine glass a-steamin' from the high speed high temp dishwasher  ^_^ bwah hahahahaaaaa! :ph34r:

Gemini Experienced
Gemini
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and i think exactly the opposite.  you're talking high speed high temp water, here.  my dishwasher is TERRIBLE and i am sensitive (we are celiacs, aren't we all sensitive to gluten?) and i would eat off of dishes out of a dishwasher hands down any day of the week over dishes washed by hand.  hands down.  any,  day, of.  the. week.  i have friends who eat gluten and hand wash their dishes sometimes.  i don't like to eat off of their dishes but never got sick off of them.  that is my ca-rayy-zy opinion.  at restaurants, when i ever eat at them, i like my wine glass a-steamin' from the high speed high temp dishwasher  ^_^ bwah hahahahaaaaa! :ph34r:

I would go one step further on this and say that you do not need separate pots and pans, depending on what the material is they are made of.  Stainless steel is not porous and should pose no problem for use by either gluten or non-gluten foods, as long as they cleaned well.  Teflon, aluminum and cast iron (uncoated) should be dedicated to gluten free.  This is not a sensitive issue at all.  Most stuff isn't.  It's a cleanliness issue.  I am one of the ultra sensitive ones and have not had any problems with eating from shared plates or cutlery and I've been doing this for a VERY long time. 

 

Your opinion is not ca-rayy-zey, Arlene....... ;)

kareng Grand Master
kareng
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I would go one step further on this and say that you do not need separate pots and pans, depending on what the material is they are made of.  Stainless steel is not porous

 

 

SHHHH!  Don't let my Hub hear this!  I used it as an excuse to really nice new pans & to keep the boys from burning their eggs & bacon in my nice pans.  :ph34r:

notme Experienced
notme
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yup, gem, i share my stainless steel with the gluten eaters - we hit it with a scouring pad (s.o.s. or brillo, etc), rinse it and it goes in the dishwasher.  i sometimes even (*gasp*) cook my (gluten-free) pasta first, drain it, and then use the same (stainless steel) pot to cook gluten pasta - that way you only have one pot to wash :)

 

let me add, i am PICKY PICKY PICKY and i will even eat off of dishes at my bff's (mrs. crumbhands) house because she uses the dishwasher.  when we stayed in florida and we had no dishwasher she washed the dishes by hand and i got sick.  the next year i was armed with paper plates and tinfoil.  and ziploks.  i can usually fake anything when i have my 'go-to' kitchen supplies for improvise lolz  

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dilettantesteph
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My dishwasher doesn't work particularly well.  We have a gluten free household so it isn't an issue, but I do find stuck on food on the dishes sometimes.

 

When I suggested hand washing dishes as a possibility to see if it would make a difference, I meant to hand wash the gluten free dishes separately.

notme Experienced
notme
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either way should be fine as long as they're clean, right?   it takes me for ever to do the dishes - they are probably already sufficiently clean when i put them into the dishwasher lolz - my husband does the dishes, doesn't even *rinse* everything!  and they turn out just fine.  my secret?  i don't watch him do it  ;)  and when he loads the dishwasher, my job is to put the dishes away after they're clean, so i check everything as i unload it.  if there's anything left stuck to the dishes, back in the sink they go.

 

steph, our dishwasher is the *worst* - it's fairly new and we already replaced the motor!!!  i wish i had the old kenmore TANK that we used to have - when it got to be on it's last legs, it sounded like a freight train was coming through the house LOLZ but it still did a great job :)

w8in4dave Community Regular
w8in4dave
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I have not read all of the responses , but I do have questions about it only because everyone says If your using old wooden spoons , get rid of them, if your using old wooden cutting boards or plastic ones get rid of them!! I think possibly gluten can stay between the tines of forks. I know sometimes it can leave rice and stuff on bowls and plates. I don't have one but I know people who do and they complain about that kind of stuff happening. Not every piece of dish ware or flat ware comes out spotless ... So I say there can be traces of gluten... Enuf to bother someone?I don't know.  They can be germ free! But heat does not kill Gluten. :) 

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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I have not read all of the responses , but I do have questions about it only because everyone says If your using old wooden spoons , get rid of them, if your using old wooden cutting boards or plastic ones get rid of them!! I think possibly gluten can stay between the tines of forks. I know sometimes it can leave rice and stuff on bowls and plates. I don't have one but I know people who do and they complain about that kind of stuff happening. Not every piece of dish ware or flat ware comes out spotless ... So I say there can be traces of gluten... Enuf to bother someone?I don't know.  They can be germ free! But heat does not kill Gluten. :)

 

One more time. Because this is really a non-issue.

I am pretty sure no gluten will be on a plate or a fork if your dishwasher--- or your " washer of the dishes" (in the absence of a machine) does a good job.

Let's give it a rest.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
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Dishwashers are not perfect, although I do believe that they are far more effective than hand washing.

When I take items out of the dishwasher, I look at them. If I see any residue, I set them aside to be dealt with. We don't have a mixed kitchen anymore, but we did for many years. It was not a problem.

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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Dishwashers are not perfect, although I do believe that they are far more effective than hand washing.

When I take items out of the dishwasher, I look at them. If I see any residue, I set them aside to be dealt with. 

 

agreed! this is a "cleanliness" issue not a gluten issue. and really, who the hell eats off dirty plates? (not just "gluten" crusted)

Amen, brother.

w8in4dave Community Regular
w8in4dave
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One more time. Because this is really a non-issue.

I am pretty sure no gluten will be on a plate or a fork if your dishwasher--- or your " washer of the dishes" (in the absence of a machine) does a good job.

Let's give it a rest.

I certainly did not mean to offend anyone. I don't think the remark "Lets give it a rest" needed to be there. Thanks I will be sure not to post any more ..............

GFinDC Veteran
GFinDC
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I certainly did not mean to offend anyone. I don't think the remark "Lets give it a rest" needed to be there. Thanks I will be sure not to post any more ..............

 

Hi w8in4dave,

 

I didn't read all the posts.  But what I did in the past if I was concerned about a plate or what not that was already washed, is I would just run it under the water faucet for a quick rinse.  I used to wash my hands multiple times a day also, just in case.  Eventually I found I didn't need to do all that but it took a while.  If I was living in a mixed household  I might do that kind of extra cleaning though.  I think it depends a lot on the situation if extra cleaning is really needed.  For me it isn't since I never bring gluten into the house intentionally.  If there were gluten eaters around I'd be more concerned about it being an issue.

 

By the way, you sure didn't offend me! :)

w8in4dave Community Regular
w8in4dave
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Hi w8in4dave,

 

I didn't read all the posts.  But what I did in the past if I was concerned about a plate or what not that was already washed, is I would just run it under the water faucet for a quick rinse.  I used to wash my hands multiple times a day also, just in case.  Eventually I found I didn't need to do all that but it took a while.  If I was living in a mixed household  I might do that kind of extra cleaning though.  I think it depends a lot on the situation if extra cleaning is really needed.  For me it isn't since I never bring gluten into the house intentionally.  If there were gluten eaters around I'd be more concerned about it being an issue.

 

By the way, you sure didn't offend me! :)

No worries sweetie , it wasn't you .... I also live in a home where there is gluten eaters. I wash the dishes in the same sink. But I guess some want to "Let it a rest" Or want me to "Let it a rest" So I will say no more.  

dilettantesteph Collaborator
dilettantesteph
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Yesterday after I had my morning coffee, I noticed some food residue on top of the pot.  Yuck.  It sometimes gets stuck in the bottom of the part of the coffee maker that holds the filter and can fall in to the coffee.  My teenagers don't always inspect the dishes carefully enough when they put them away, and then I am way too groggy in the morning before I have the coffee to think about it myself.  Yuck again.

niese Explorer
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I certainly did not mean to offend anyone. I don't think the remark "Lets give it a rest" needed to be there. Thanks I will be sure not to post any more ..............

You are not offending me and I am the one that started this threat.  It wasn't started for the issue of cleanliness it was an issue of gluten, but someone else turned it around.  Duhhh we all know not to eat off of dirty dishes (that wasn't directed to you w8in4dave) I just asked if I could get gluten from washing gluten and non gluten dishes together in dishwasher. Please w8in4dave keep posting you didn't offend me! This site is for us all to learn, help each other, support each other, but lately seems like it's been war.  We are all here for the same reason! 

niese Explorer
niese
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agreed! this is a "cleanliness" issue not a gluten issue. and really, who the hell eats off dirty plates? (not just "gluten" crusted)

Amen, brother.

No sorry I started this thread as a gluten issue, wanted to make sure it was safe to put gluten and non gluten dishes in dishwasher.  I wasn't asking how to clean my dishes, that I already know.

niese Explorer
niese
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You are not offending me and I am the one that started this threat.  It wasn't started for the issue of cleanliness it was an issue of gluten, but someone else turned it around.  Duhhh we all know not to eat off of dirty dishes (that wasn't directed to you w8in4dave) I just asked if I could get gluten from washing gluten and non gluten dishes together in dishwasher. Please w8in4dave keep posting you didn't offend me! This site is for us all to learn, help each other, support each other, but lately seems like it's been war.  We are all here for the same reason! 

Opps I meant thread not threat lol 

w8in4dave Community Regular
w8in4dave
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I guess I took it as a direct hit. because it was quoted in my post. I don't mean to make a big deal out of it. I am over it. I will just watch what I say from now on. I have learned alot in this forum, I have considered quitting but have reconsidered and just decided to quit and get over it! Keep learning and doing the best I can. Thats what life is all about right? And I do not think dish washers are perfect!! but neither am I :) We can all be friends here no matter what our opinion right? 

Are we friends? :) 

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