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Is It Possible To Get Gluten From The Dishwasher?

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GFinDC Veteran
GFinDC
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Sounds ok to me W8n4dave! :)

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IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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No worries sweetie , it wasn't you .... I also live in a home where there is gluten eaters. I wash the dishes in the same sink. But I guess some want to "Let it a rest" Or want me to "Let it a rest" So I will say no more.  

 

 

Sorry, but I was only doing my job as a moderator to control the discussion on the thread. Rarely do I do such a thing (as you may have noticed, I am almost always among the first ones to respond to a newbie's cry for help)

Haven't I answered many of your questions, hon?

 

and I in no way was talking about you taking a rest or no longer posting.No need for you to get mad and leave.

 

I meant it as "let's give the topic a rest " because we have discussed it already many times and the answer was given and to keep repeating it and to speculate about it as being harmful

to celiacs in any way serves no purpose.

 

I am sorry if that offended you because I meant nothing personal. I think perhaps you misunderstood

what I meant, but if so, I apologize if It hurt your feelings.

 

I'd also like to add that when someone comments without reading all the posts on a lengthy thread, he or she may not see all the exchanges and may leap to a conclusion, which is often unfair.

 

The discussion about whether a plate would be harmful because of gluten in a dishwasher did in fact become an issue about cleanliness in general.

 

So, please guys--read everything before posting as it can sometimes cause confusion and misunderstandings.

niese Explorer
niese
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I guess I took it as a direct hit. because it was quoted in my post. I don't mean to make a big deal out of it. I am over it. I will just watch what I say from now on. I have learned alot in this forum, I have considered quitting but have reconsidered and just decided to quit and get over it! Keep learning and doing the best I can. Thats what life is all about right? And I do not think dish washers are perfect!! but neither am I :) We can all be friends here no matter what our opinion right? 

Are we friends? :)

You are good hun. 

niese Explorer
niese
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Sorry, but I was only doing my job as a moderator to control the discussion on the thread. Rarely do I do such a thing (as you may have noticed, I am almost always among the first ones to respond to a newbie's cry for help)

Haven't I answered many of your questions, hon?

 

and I in no way was talking about you taking a rest or no longer posting.No need for you to get mad and leave.

 

I meant it as "let's give the topic a rest " because we have discussed it already many times and the answer was given and to keep repeating it and to speculate about it as being harmful

to celiacs in any way serves no purpose.

 

I am sorry if that offended you because I meant nothing personal. I think perhaps you misunderstood

what I meant, but if so, I apologize if It hurt your feelings.

 

I'd also like to add that when someone comments without reading all the posts on a lengthy thread, he or she may not see all the exchanges and may leap to a conclusion, which is often unfair.

 

The discussion about whether a plate would be harmful because of gluten in a dishwasher did in fact become an issue about cleanliness in general.

 

So, please guys--read everything before posting as it can sometimes cause confusion and misunderstandings.

I understand every thread has to be monitored but honestly I didn't see where it was getting out of hand.  BTW I am not the one that said they were mad n is leaving.  

w8in4dave Community Regular
w8in4dave
Posted

Sorry, but I was only doing my job as a moderator to control the discussion on the thread. Rarely do I do such a thing (as you may have noticed, I am almost always among the first ones to respond to a newbie's cry for help)

Haven't I answered many of your questions, hon?

 

and I in no way was talking about you taking a rest or no longer posting.No need for you to get mad and leave.

 

I meant it as "let's give the topic a rest " because we have discussed it already many times and the answer was given and to keep repeating it and to speculate about it as being harmful

to celiacs in any way serves no purpose.

 

I am sorry if that offended you because I meant nothing personal. I think perhaps you misunderstood

what I meant, but if so, I apologize if It hurt your feelings.

 

I'd also like to add that when someone comments without reading all the posts on a lengthy thread, he or she may not see all the exchanges and may leap to a conclusion, which is often unfair.

 

The discussion about whether a plate would be harmful because of gluten in a dishwasher did in fact become an issue about cleanliness in general.

 

So, please guys--read everything before posting as it can sometimes cause confusion and misunderstandings.

Not a lengthily thread. I have read it since. I was not out of line, I did not deserve that. You are a mod. I respect you. But not that... It was not out of hand ....  maby you should consider reading it again .... Please :) And Thank you 

notme Experienced
notme
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Not a lengthily thread. I have read it since. I was not out of line, I did not deserve that. You are a mod. I respect you. But not that... It was not out of hand ....  maby you should consider reading it again .... Please :) And Thank you 

what is your deal.

kareng Grand Master
kareng
Posted

I thought we all agreed that its gross if food - gluten or not- is stuck to dishes and forks?  Most people have no problems using a dishwasher. 

 

If the thought of gluten and non-gluten dishes bathing together offends your sensibilities, wash them separately, use paper plates, eat out of the pot, wash separately, get the dog to clean the gluten plates first (dog saliva is a great dissolver of food. Got grape juice off of yellow cotton with it), etc.

 

Let's lighten up.  I refuse to fight about cleaning!

 

 

Me doing dishes.  Notice the red sponge for gluten-free food cleanup?

 

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GFinDC Veteran
GFinDC
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I thought we all agreed that its gross if food - gluten or not- is stuck to dishes and forks?  Most people have no problems using a dishwasher. 

 

If the thought of gluten and non-gluten dishes bathing together offends your sensibilities, wash them separately, use paper plates, eat out of the pot, wash separately, get the dog to clean the gluten plates first (dog saliva is a great dissolver of food. Got grape juice off of yellow cotton with it), etc.

 

Let's lighten up.  I refuse to fight about cleaning!

 

 

Me doing dishes.  Notice the red sponge for gluten-free food cleanup?

 

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Ohhh mama!   Can you come to my house to clean dishes?  :)

 

Really, need help.  The doggies all died years ago and the dishwasher is broke.  Cat just doesn't get them as clean as they otter be.  :)

Marilyn R Community Regular
Marilyn R
Posted

Yo DC, you otter give your poor cat a rest.  :wub:

plynb Newbie
plynb
Posted

This is all new to me. Can someone tell me why my dishwasher would not sanitize my cooking utensils? I don't understand why it would be okay for my eating utensils and not cooking. Also I am a diabetic and as I go through this detox stage I'm craving sugar....I think. I'm not sure if its an emotional crutch because this has been a very emotional process for me

kareng Grand Master
kareng
Posted

This is all new to me. Can someone tell me why my dishwasher would not sanitize my cooking utensils? I don't understand why it would be okay for my eating utensils and not cooking. Also I am a diabetic and as I go through this detox stage I'm craving sugar....I think. I'm not sure if its an emotional crutch because this has been a very emotional process for me

A few things don't clean well and might have gluten in the cracks. Things like a colander that it is hard to clean each little hole or a wooden spoon which is full of cracks that can hide gluten or germs. If your pots and spoons, etc can clean well...use them.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
Posted

 

Really, need help.  The doggies all died years ago and the dishwasher is broke.  Cat just doesn't get them as clean as they otter be.  :)

At least your cat tries. My won't even lick a plate with chicken or steak on it. She still begs while I cook though, go figure.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

Can someone tell me why my dishwasher would not sanitize my cooking utensils?

The dishwasher will certainly sanitize your utensils, due to the heat. But that means killing microorganisms. Gluten can not be killed, and sanitizing has no effect on it. Gluten must be physically removed as part of the washing process. This is why porous or scratched surfaces are a concern.

It is common for people new to the process to think that alcohol or other sanitizers will neutralize gluten, but that is not the case.

GFinDC Veteran
GFinDC
Posted

Yo DC, you otter give your poor cat a rest.  :wub:

 

Ha ha, she gets plenty of rest!  :)

 

At least your cat tries. My won't even lick a plate with chicken or steak on it. She still begs while I cook though, go figure.

 

Same here Raven, she is a processed food only cat.  Won't hardly touch anything besides store bought cat-food.  But the silly cat still seems to think everything I eat is a cat treat of some kind.  Curiosity I guess.

Marilyn R Community Regular
Marilyn R
Posted

My German Pinscher and part-time (neighbor's) dog are ready and willing to go help out anyone with finicky cats.

 

Regrettably, neither one of the doggies are very friendly toward cats. 

 

They shovel up the left overs though, even cabbage.  Heidi Ho loves anything with tomato in it.  Arnold will eat positively anything except corn chips.  He vacuums my kitchen floor with his nose every time he pops over.

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kmarie82 Newbie
kmarie82
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I hate to bump an older thread, but I made an account specifically after seeing this post.

I understand the issue of gluten in the dishwasher is a cleanliness issue, so I must share this. I recently used my mom's dishwasher bc my sink was leaking. My house is strictly gluten-free, hers is nowhere near it. The only change that could have triggered my reaction this week was dishes washed in her washer. It is an OLD machine and I forgot to check or rinse the plates before putting them away. I know this must be how I was glutened. I examined a plate on the bottom of the stack and sure enough, there was a thin patch of grime hidden by the design on the plate! The hot water and high pressure just didn't cut it this time.

And just bc you cannot see smudges on your plates doesn't mean they aren't there :( obviously that sounds paranoid, but paranoia is sometimes justified. This could have been avoided if I'd been more careful. I'm extremely, severely sensitive and am still discovering just how serious this is. I don't expect many people will have the issue I've had.. but if you're reacting and you've examined all other possible contaminants, and you still share a dish washer, it is certainly something to consider!

Is there an introductions sub forum?

dilettantesteph Collaborator
dilettantesteph
Posted

I hate to bump an older thread, but I made an account specifically after seeing this post.

I understand the issue of gluten in the dishwasher is a cleanliness issue, so I must share this. I recently used my mom's dishwasher bc my sink was leaking. My house is strictly gluten-free, hers is nowhere near it. The only change that could have triggered my reaction this week was dishes washed in her washer. It is an OLD machine and I forgot to check or rinse the plates before putting them away. I know this must be how I was glutened. I examined a plate on the bottom of the stack and sure enough, there was a thin patch of grime hidden by the design on the plate! The hot water and high pressure just didn't cut it this time.

And just bc you cannot see smudges on your plates doesn't mean they aren't there :( obviously that sounds paranoid, but paranoia is sometimes justified. This could have been avoided if I'd been more careful. I'm extremely, severely sensitive and am still discovering just how serious this is. I don't expect many people will have the issue I've had.. but if you're reacting and you've examined all other possible contaminants, and you still share a dish washer, it is certainly something to consider!

Is there an introductions sub forum?

 

I am also one of the more sensitive ones and I agree with your concerns.  It is difficult to make the less sensitive not obsess over unimportant things while at the same time letting the more sensitive know where their reactions might be coming from.  I spent the first couple of years figuring out all these things.

GFinDC Veteran
GFinDC
Posted

Is there an introductions sub forum?

Welcome! :)

 

There is a section called celiac meeting room for introductions.  It's not mandatory to post in it though, some do, some don't.

https://www.celiac.com/forums/forum/47-celiac-meeting-room/

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MsMarginalized Rookie
MsMarginalized
Posted

Actually, alcohol DOES denature the protein bonds in gluten. 

notme Experienced
notme
Posted

Actually, alcohol DOES denature the protein bonds in gluten. 

my dishwasher runs with water lolz  :D  although alcohol is always fun ;)

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

Actually, alcohol DOES denature the protein bonds in gluten. 

It has some effect, but it is not enough. After all, if alcohol completely denatured gluten, we could all drink beer.  :o

GF Lover Rising Star
GF Lover
Posted

It has some effect, but it is not enough. After all, if alcohol completely denatured gluten, we could all drink beer.  :o

 

:lol: Good one Peter.  I shall pray to the Beer gods to make it so...

MsMarginalized Rookie
MsMarginalized
Posted

Beer contains alcohol/it is not pure alcohol.  IIRC, depending on the beer, the alcohol content can be from 2% to 12%.

 

The alcohol I am speaking of would be pure alcohol.  Rubbing alcohol will denature gluten on cookware.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

You miss my point. Gliadin is soluble in alcohol. It does not break down or become denatured, no matter how pure the alcohol. When the alcohol evaporates, the intact gliadin is still there. If you have proof that this is not true, please provide your evidence for us all to see.

MsMarginalized Rookie
MsMarginalized
Posted

From my understanding, the alcohol does denature the bonds in the peptides.  I do not remember where I learned that, so I cannot state any source, sorry.

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