Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Which Is Easier For You: Dairy Or Gluten Free?


JWSJ

Recommended Posts

JWSJ Newbie

My daughter and I are dairy and gluten free due to allergies.

Being gluten free has been an annoyance. Luckily, the sick stomach aches are enough to keep us away from gluten.

Rice and corn are easy substitutes.

Dairy free has been more difficult. We don't get nearly as sick.

It also seems easier to avoid gluten. Dairy is hard to avoid - it's in everything baked.

Cheese substitutes are just not as tasty.

Which is harder for you: dairy or gluten free?

JWSJ


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Roda Rising Star

Overall gluten free was harder for me. I've been dairy free several times, when I breastfed both my boys and once for a good three months thinking it was the cause of the problems I was having in 2010 after I had been gluten free for 1.5 years. Substituting dairy alternatives in baking/cooking was no problem for me. What got me was not having any cheese! Other than that I didn't think it was too bad. I'm happy to report that dairy wasn't my problem.

Adalaide Mentor

Cheese is one of my very favorite foods. Expensive European and South American chocolates are an indulgence I doubt I could live without. I also had a milk habit of 2-3 gallons a week until the doctor said to cut down on dairy. Realistically unless it made me extremely sick I wouldn't give it up. Just the smell of soy milk makes me gag. Almond and coconut milk just taste awful. Rice milk is the only substitute I can tolerate, and I've read here that sadly it has hidden gluten.

It may be "easier" to avoid gluten, as in easier to find and have good food. Honestly, I'd just as soon have a leg cut off than give up dairy.(No, not exaggerating... I do accounting and office work, I don't need legs for that.)

alex11602 Collaborator

I find gluten free to be much easier. With gluten free you can say "oh I want pancakes, let's make them with almond flour or whatever other flour you use", with dairy free you can't just say I want lasagna because you just can't replace the cheese easily.

IrishHeart Veteran

Gluten free was much easier for me because I was so happy to get rid of the thing that was poisoning me and making me so ill and in pain for years. I am probably one of the few people who can honestly say I was happy to know I had Celiac :) -- because it was an answer and a solution to getting my life back.

But no Cheese? (absolutely one of my favorite things to eat) ice cream? half and half in coffee?? oh no!! waaaaaaa :(

I did use ghee and I ate So Delicious coconut milk ice cream and used that milk in my cooking and baking, so it was not so bad.

I had to avoid soy, too, so it was tricky at first.

But I did it--for 11 months and now, happily, I can have

some cheese without any trouble. :D That first pizza? HEAVEN.

love2travel Mentor

Without question gluten. I still miss the elasticity and texture that gluten adds to croissants, fresh breads, bagels, rolls, puff pastry, etc. You should see my bakery library that I can no longer use, including my beloved gigantic culinary school baking textbooks. Thankfully I have some decent gluten-free recipes for dough that I can actually roll out as opposed to spread like cake batter. :D Breadmaking was one of my favourite things to do and it is no longer. I just have bread far less often now.

As an avid cheese lover (we used to always have about 8-10 kinds of cheeses in the fridge at all times) dairy was difficult but when I eliminated dairy the weight started slipping off. It was easy to substitute coconut milk and so on (but not cheese, of course). Now I can eat some aged cheeses but definitely cannot drink milk or eat ice cream (but I can still eat granita, semi-freddo...). I have many cheese encyclopedias that I did not look at for several months as it was too sad. :( Now I can happily go to cheese shops for those wonderful European cheeses (well, some of them).

Skylark Collaborator

Dairy-free is much harder for me and I'm stuck with it for now. Cheese is one of my favorite foods and there is really no substitute. There is also nothing good for my coffee. :(


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



beebs Enthusiast

I would much rather be gluten free, when I was just lactose free for 3 months I almost didn't make it, I just missed lattes and milk chocolate way too much :lol:

TeknoLen Rookie

Going gluten-free was definitely more difficult since wheat-based foods were such an integral part of my diet. Bread for sandwiches, pizza, breakfast cereals, hamburger buns, beer, breaded foods, etc were all tough to give up because I knew they were gone forever. Dairy was not as difficult since I thought it might only be temporary. I still have occasional fantasies that I might get milk, cheese, butter and ice cream back someday...

mommida Enthusiast

dairy free is harder for me. Things I did like gluten and dairy free, enjoy life chocolate chips, rice milk, almond milk, Lizlovely.com cookies, and I learned to try other combinations. Using hummus on sandwiches to make them "stick" together and almost like a slice of cheese.

Keep looking and concentrating on foods you can have and keep trying new combinations. :)

sa1937 Community Regular

Going dairy-free was much harder for me, too, although I did use Lactaid milk, which is 100% lactose-free. I missed cheese something terrible but started eating small amounts of hard cheeses when I was gluten-free for 9 months. Now I am able to eat cheese without a problem. I missed pizza so much, which probably explains why I make it so frequently now.

MJ-S Contributor

Without question, dairy. I would give anything to be able to have cheese, cheese, and cheese. It makes me sad every day.

I honestly wouldn't even mind not having gluten, if only I could have dairy! But alas, I'm super sensitive to dairy and it makes me even sicker than gluten.

ladymiss Rookie

"But I did it--for 11 months and now, happily, I can have

some cheese without any trouble. :D That first pizza? HEAVEN."

= HOPE!!!!!!! :)

Marilyn R Community Regular

But you'll do the happy dance once you have healed enough to reintroduce dairy!

(I can't decide which I loved more, loved both.) Don't miss gluten much because it made me sick as a dog, and I don't mind not being sick.)

kaity Apprentice

my son is celiac and lactose intollerant, i think that it is very difficult keeping him away from gluten, after all everything contains gluten spices, break, speghatti, and he is a piccky three year old so he wont just eat anything, however after being diagnosed with lactose intollerance almost no changes were made, exceppt that he stopped eating cheese, and cheese was his favorite breakfast, ice cream can be replaced with dairy free ice cream, chocolate can be replaced with black chocolate, cakes can be found dairy free

i think that the hardest think that i ever did was putting my son on gluten free diet

IrishHeart Veteran

Going gluten-free was definitely more difficult since wheat-based foods were such an integral part of my diet. Bread for sandwiches, pizza, breakfast cereals, hamburger buns, beer, breaded foods, etc were all tough to give up because I knew they were gone forever. Dairy was not as difficult since I thought it might only be temporary. I still have occasional fantasies that I might get milk, cheese, butter and ice cream back someday...

TL--I hope you are finding some good gluten-free substitutes for all those bready items? There are some decent ones on the market and many of us bake our own. Did you surf around the recipe section yet? :)

And, there's always hope. In the interim, have you tried So Delicious Coconut milk?--about the closest thing to dairy milk I could find (and I tried them all :rolleyes: ) and full of calcium. That company makes yogurt and coconut ice cream, too. Very tasty, Dedicated facility-- certified gluten-free....Just some suggestions.

burdee Enthusiast

My daughter and I are dairy and gluten free due to allergies.

Being gluten free has been an annoyance. Luckily, the sick stomach aches are enough to keep us away from gluten.

Rice and corn are easy substitutes.

Dairy free has been more difficult. We don't get nearly as sick.

It also seems easier to avoid gluten. Dairy is hard to avoid - it's in everything baked.

Cheese substitutes are just not as tasty.

Which is harder for you: dairy or gluten free?

JWSJ

Dairy was harder for me ... at first. I missed the creamy taste milk (rice milk was horrible) and other dairy products. I missed ice cream, cheese and lattes. I couldn't tolerate soy substitutes and was later diagnosed with delayed reaction soy allergy. Then I discovered creamy Hazelnut milk and coconut milk (for cooking), coconut milk based ice creams, and Daiya cheese (which had the same taste and texture of cheese I remembered). Then I was diagnosed with allergies to egg, cane sugar, vanilla and nutmeg. So dairy abstinence didn't seem so difficult anymore. Then I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, got thyroid supplements and didn't need caffeine. So I didn't need lattes. Then I discovered great tasting substitutes for foods made from my other allergens, like beet sugar instead of cane sugar. Most recently I discovered soy/egg free mayonnaise. I don't miss anything now. I especially don't miss all the cramping pain and bloating I used to get from eating my allergens. It's all relative.

missmellie Newbie

Giving up dairy and gluten were both difficult, especially since I also have to avoid eggs and soy. Soy is VERY difficult to avoid, especially when eating out, even harder to avoid than gluten. Like some of the others have said, I miss cheese a lot. There are substitute flours and "milks", but finding good-tasting substitutes for cheese and eggs is impossible.

GFdad0110 Apprentice

my son is gluten free/lactose free. I am also gluten free (since about 9 months old) so that part wasn't too difficult for me because I really don't know how it is to not be gluten free. But a lactose free diet is new to me. He is getting along just fine,but he never was on a diet with lactose in it. A question for all the lactose intolerant. Can you tolerate greek yogurt?

burdee Enthusiast

Giving up dairy and gluten were both difficult, especially since I also have to avoid eggs and soy. Soy is VERY difficult to avoid, especially when eating out, even harder to avoid than gluten. Like some of the others have said, I miss cheese a lot. There are substitute flours and "milks", but finding good-tasting substitutes for cheese and eggs is impossible.

Soy was difficult to give up for me until Earth Balance came out with a dairy/soy free buttery spread and later a soy/egg free mayonnaise. Then I found Daiya dairy/soy free cheese. Then Amande made dairy/soy free yogurt. Best of all we found coconut aminos, which tastes just like soy sauce, without the pain and bloating reactions I got from soy sauce. What other soy products do you miss? I never really liked tofu or edamame. So I don't miss those.

Marilyn R Community Regular

I had my first gluten nightmare in a very long while after I responded to this thread.

I never dreamed about dairy, even though it was rough to avoid it for quite awhile.

So I guess gluten was a bigger beast of burden.

kaity Apprentice

hello everyone i responded to this post before saying that gluten free is much harder than dairy free, i would like to change that to say that dairy free diet is a thousand time harder than a gluten free diet, because now most of the stuff my son cant eat, i find either dairy free products or gluten free products, it is hard to find a product that my son would eat that is both gluten and dairy free........

i hope that his lactose intollerance is only temporary... i have my fingers crossed

Chalula88 Apprentice

Going dairy free was way WAY easier for me than going gluten free. I don't miss dairy at all. I used to love cheese, but I never drank milk, used butter, or ate yogurt, so cutting it out wasn't a big deal for me. I just stopped using cheese, which wasn't even noticeable because I almost immediately converted to a whole foods diet.

I feel happier and healthier without both gluten and dairy and so the rewards are so great that I don't find either all that difficult emotionally. From a practical point of view, I think shopping dairy free is way easier than shopping gluten free.

kaity Apprentice

Going dairy free was way WAY easier for me than going gluten free. I don't miss dairy at all. I used to love cheese, but I never drank milk, used butter, or ate yogurt, so cutting it out wasn't a big deal for me. I just stopped using cheese, which wasn't even noticeable because I almost immediately converted to a whole foods diet.

I feel happier and healthier without both gluten and dairy and so the rewards are so great that I don't find either all that difficult emotionally. From a practical point of view, I think shopping dairy free is way easier than shopping gluten free.

my son never ate butter or drank milk either he only ate cheese, and that is what i thought when he got on a dairy free diet, i thought that i would eleminate the cheese from his diet and all would be good, but i didnt know that almost everything had milk in it, soups, icecream, almost all cakes, cookies, chocolate, some candies, some speghetti..... and the list goes on and on and on

but i do hope that you find it easy, because personally i find it very hard

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      2

      Related issues

    2. - MogwaiStripe replied to annamarie6655's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Airborne Gluten?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Midwestern's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      16

      Gluten Issues and Vitamin D

    4. - knitty kitty replied to annamarie6655's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Airborne Gluten?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,246
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    IRENEG6
    Newest Member
    IRENEG6
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      Hi Jmartes, It sure is difficult to get useful advice from medical providers. Almost 20 years  ago a Dr suggested that I might have Celiacs and I took a Celiac Panel blood test. No gluten challenge diet. On that test the tTG was in normal range but an alpha antibody was very high. I went online and read about celiac disease and saw how I could investigate this low tTG and still have celiac disease. Normal tTG can happen when a person had been reacting for many years. Another way is that the person has not been eating enough gluten to raise the antibody level. Another reason is that the tTG does not show up on a blood but may show up on a fecal test. Almost all Celiacs inherit at least one of the 2 main Celiac genes. I had genetic tests for the Celiac genes at Enterolab.com. I inherited one main Celiac gene from one parent and the report said that the DQ gene I inherited from my other parent, DQ6, could cause a person to have more problems or symptoms with that combination. One of my grandmother's had fairly typical symptoms of Celiacs but the other grandmother had severe food intolerances. I seem to show some problems inherited from both grandmothers. Human physiology is very complex and researchers are just beginning to understand how different body systems interact.  If you have taken an autosomal DNA test you can download your raw data file and upload it to Prometheuw.com for a small fee and search for Celiac Disease. If you don't find any Cekiac genes or information about Celiac disease  you may not have autoimmune gluten intolerance because more than 99% of Celiacs have one or both of these genes.  PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO KNOW EHAT i HAVE DONE TO HELP WITH SYMPTOMS.  
    • MogwaiStripe
      I can't prove it, but I truly believe I have been glutened by airborne particles. I used to take care of shelter cats once per week at a pet store, and no matter how careful I was, I would get glutened each time even if I wore a mask and gloves and washed up well after I was done. I believe the problem was that because I'm short, I couldn't do the the tasks without getting my head and shoulders inside their cages, and so the particles from their food would be all over my hair and top of my shirt. Then I had to drive home, so even if I didn't get glutened right then, the particles would be in my car just waiting for me to get in the car so they could get blown into my face again. I gave up that volunteer gig and stopped getting glutened so often and at such regular intervals.
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @MogwaiStripe, Vitamin D is turned into its activated forms by Thiamine.  Thiamine deficiency can affect Vitamin D activation. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14913223/ Thiamine deficiency affects HLA genes.  HLA genes code for autoimmune diseases like Celiac, Thyroiditis, Diabetes, etc.  Thiamine deficiency inside a cell triggers a toggle switch on the gene which in turn activates autoimmune diseases carried on the gene.  The reference to the study is in my blog somewhere.  Click on my name to go to my page, scroll down to the drop down menu "Activities" and click on blogs.  
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @annamarie6655, Yes, there's many of us who react to airborne gluten!   Yes, animal feed, whether for chickens or cats or dogs, can release airborne gluten.  I can get glutened from the bakery section at the grocery store.   The nose and mouth drain into the digestive system and can trigger systemic reactions.   I find the histamine release in response to airborne gluten will stuff up my sinuses and bother my eyes.  High histamine levels do cause anxiety and migraines.  The muscle spasms can be caused by high histamine, too.  The digestive system may not manifest symptoms without a higher level of gluten exposure.   Our bodies make an enzyme, DAO (diamine oxidase), to break down histamine.   Pyridoxine B 6, Cobalamine B12, Vitamin C, copper, zinc, and iron are needed to make DAO.  DAO supplements are available over the counter.  Taking a B Complex supplement and additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) helps reduce the amount of histamine being released.  Mast cells without sufficient Thiamine have an itchy trigger finger and release histamine at the slightest provocation.  Thiamine helps mast cells refrain from releasing their histamine.    I find taking additional TTFD thiamine helps immensely with neurological symptoms as TTFD can easily cross the blood brain barrier without a carrier.  High histamine in the brain can cause the muscle spasms, anxiety and migraines.  Vitamin C really helps with clearing histamine, too.   The Digiorno pizza mystery reaction could have been caused by a reaction to the cheese.  Some people develop lactose intolerance.  Others react to Casein, the protein in dairy, the same as if to gluten because Casein resembles the molecular structure of gluten.  An enzyme used in some dairy products, microbial transglutaminase, causes a gluten reaction because it is the same as the tissue transglutaminase our bodies make except microbes make it.  Those tTg IgA blood tests to diagnose celiac disease measure tissue transglutaminase our bodies release as part of the autoimmune response to gluten.   You're doing great!  A Sherlock Holmes award to you for figuring out the connection between airborne gluten and animal feed!!!  
    • Scott Adams
      This article may be helpful:  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.