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Tonight's menu: Pork chops with apples and honey glaze, baked potato with broccoli

(Yep, more potatoes!)

"She didn't realize that an oven previously used to bake gluten pies etc. was a big no no for us"

What? My oven will CC me???? I sure hope not, it's baking my pork chops right now. Do you mean she used a TOASTER oven, with a crumby tray? Please explain for the newbie..... :)


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Brian, there's a message in my Alphabits...it says 'Oooooooo'.

Peter, those are Cheerios.

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Tortilla soup! Actually made with tortillas!

get. out. where did you get them? (don't say teff, don't say teff, don't say teff...) :D

one of the 'other things' i miss is flour tortillas. although i am doing better with using the corn ones.

edited to say:

last night we made macaroni n cheese w/stewed tomatoes.

tonight we smoked salmon and tuna w/roasted potato rounds and acorn squash a'la billyhowell (yumms - butter, salt n pepper and brown sugar!)

but the other night we made: chicken chow mein like they used to make in new jersey :) complete with fried crispy noodles - o my gosh, i was in 'china paradise' :D


arlene

misdiagnosed for 25 years!
just as i was getting my affairs in order to die of malnutrition...
gluten free 7/2010
blood test negative
celiac confirmed by endoscopy 9/2010

 

only YOU can prevent forest fires - smokey t. bear

 

have a nice day :)

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Tonight's menu: Pork chops with apples and honey glaze, baked potato with broccoli

(Yep, more potatoes!)

"She didn't realize that an oven previously used to bake gluten pies etc. was a big no no for us"

What? My oven will CC me???? I sure hope not, it's baking my pork chops right now. Do you mean she used a TOASTER oven, with a crumby tray? Please explain for the newbie..... :)

Yes, it will gluten you if you share an oven with someone that either currently uses it for gluten items, or if it was previously used for them in the past and hasn't been de-glutened. Does not matter what type of oven it is, it needs to be gluten free--even a microwave. Otherwise you are being exposed to gluten circulating in the hot oven air. If it wasn't new when you got it, you need to put it through the self cleaning cycle.

Am not sure if the old fashioned method of using lye to get off the old baked on stuff in an oven will work for a gas oven or an electric oven that doesn't have a self cleaning cycle (or one that works anyway). Be good to know this! Help me with this somebody!

Otherwise, I suggest you get a dedicated gluten-free toaster oven to bake your food (and/or a new microwave), or buy a new oven.

Gluten does not "die" unless it has been charred by 600 degree Farenheit heat for a while... At first you might not notice the effects of constant exposure to CC (cross contamination) from this or other sources, but believe me it takes its toll on your health. Far better to get rid of the source.


Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!

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Yes, it will gluten you if you share an oven with someone that either currently uses it for gluten items, or if it was previously used for them in the past and hasn't been de-glutened. Does not matter what type of oven it is, it needs to be gluten free--even a microwave. Otherwise you are being exposed to gluten circulating in the hot oven air. If it wasn't new when you got it, you need to put it through the self cleaning cycle.

Am not sure if the old fashioned method of using lye to get off the old baked on stuff in an oven will work for a gas oven or an electric oven that doesn't have a self cleaning cycle (or one that works anyway). Be good to know this! Help me with this somebody!

Otherwise, I suggest you get a dedicated gluten-free toaster oven to bake your food (and/or a new microwave), or buy a new oven.

Gluten does not "die" unless it has been charred by 600 degree Farenheit heat for a while... At first you might not notice the effects of constant exposure to CC (cross contamination) from this or other sources, but believe me it takes its toll on your health. Far better to get rid of the source.

I got rid of my old grill, but sorry, I can't buy into getting rid of the old oven. I use parchment paper on top of my old cookie sheets and stick them in my old oven. I could be wrong, but wish you would provide scientific evidence (aricle or etc.) to make this claim.


Positive improvement from elimination diet. Mother dx'd by Mayo Clinic in late 1980s. Negative blood tests and Upper & Lower GI biopsy. Parathyroidectomy 12/09. Recurring high calcium level 4/10. Gluten-free 4/10. Soy & Dairy Free 6/10. Corn free 7/10. Grain free except rice 8/10. Legume free 6/11. Fighting the battle of the battle within myself, and I'm going to win!

As of 2/12, tolerating dairy, corn, legumes and some soy, but I limit soy to tamari sauce or modest soy additives. Won't ever try quinoa again!

Discoid Lupus from skin biopsy 2011, discovered 2/12 when picking up medical records. Systemic Lupus Dx 6/12. Shingles 10/12.

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-"Humble Vegetable Casserole," recipe from the "Enchanted Broccoli Forest" cookbook

-not-humble-at-all applesauce, with cranberries, tangerine juice & zest, cloves, allspice, bay leaf, maple syrup

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beef stroganoff w/tinkyada <pasta is awesome> fettucine and haaaarvard beets.


arlene

misdiagnosed for 25 years!
just as i was getting my affairs in order to die of malnutrition...
gluten free 7/2010
blood test negative
celiac confirmed by endoscopy 9/2010

 

only YOU can prevent forest fires - smokey t. bear

 

have a nice day :)

Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator

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I got rid of my old grill, but sorry, I can't buy into getting rid of the old oven. I use parchment paper on top of my old cookie sheets and stick them in my old oven. I could be wrong, but wish you would provide scientific evidence (aricle or etc.) to make this claim.

I did not invent this problem about old gluteny ovens. I don't know if there is scientific proof or not, however almost everyone on celiac.com has to bake their baked items in a completely gluten-free oven or suffer from the effects. It is part of the standard procedure. Certainly you must have heard about it before now?? Just this last week both my boyfriend and I got CC'd from someone not following this protocol. We did not know what happened and then finally figured it out. Like I enquired before, it is possible perhaps to clean the oven with old fashioned brushed-on lye (Easy Off) without throwing it out. The spray on kind seems to be far less effective in this area. I'd like to know about this too actually, i.e., if the brushed on lye actually works on getting rid of the gluten or not. Otherwise it takes 600 degrees in a self cleaning oven to work for certain.


Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!

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I did not invent this problem about old gluteny ovens. I don't know if there is scientific proof or not, however almost everyone on celiac.com has to bake their baked items in a completely gluten-free oven or suffer from the effects. It is part of the standard procedure. Certainly you must have heard about it before now?? Just this last week both my boyfriend and I got CC'd from someone not following this protocol. We did not know what happened and then finally figured it out. Like I enquired before, it is possible perhaps to clean the oven with old fashioned brushed-on lye (Easy Off) without throwing it out. The spray on kind seems to be far less effective in this area. I'd like to know about this too actually, i.e., if the brushed on lye actually works on getting rid of the gluten or not. Otherwise it takes 600 degrees in a self cleaning oven to work for certain.

Bea - to be honest I have never heard of that before. Contamination occurs with cross contact (ie touching). Unless your food it touching the sides of the oven walls, or directly on the oven rack - no contact should be made, thus no contamination. I have used a shared oven for almost seven years, with no issue.


Lisa

Gluten Free - August 15, 2004

"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien

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Bea - to be honest I have never heard of that before. Contamination occurs with cross contact (ie touching). Unless your food it touching the sides of the oven walls, or directly on the oven rack - no contact should be made, thus no contamination. I have used a shared oven for almost seven years, with no issue.

I think you should open this up as a topic. You will find I am not alone in this opinion. It would be interesting to find out the scientific proof as you say. For most of us at any rate it is a very real problem. What you get in the circulating hot air in the oven does affect most of us and could be silently undermining your health in the background. Or not. Perhaps you are just lucky to be less affected? It would be good to know more...

Bea


Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!

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I think you should open this up as a topic. You will find I am not alone in this opinion. It would be interesting to find out the scientific proof as you say. For most of us at any rate it is a very real problem. What you get in the circulating hot air in the oven does affect most of us and could be silently undermining your health in the background. Or not. Perhaps you are just lucky to be less affected? It would be good to know more...

Bea

Yes, this could be separate topic. This thread has a great flow to it as it continues. We should not interrupt. :)


Lisa

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"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien

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Interesting....I've actually cooked both gluten and non gluten foods in my oven at the same time (Of course making sure the gluten food was on the bottom) and never noticed a problem.


Patti

"Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans"

"When people show you who they are, believe them"--Maya Angelou

"Bloom where you are planted"--Bev

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get. out. where did you get them? (don't say teff, don't say teff, don't say teff...) :D

one of the 'other things' i miss is flour tortillas. although i am doing better with using the corn ones.

edited to say:

last night we made macaroni n cheese w/stewed tomatoes.

tonight we smoked salmon and tuna w/roasted potato rounds and acorn squash a'la billyhowell (yumms - butter, salt n pepper and brown sugar!)

but the other night we made: chicken chow mein like they used to make in new jersey :) complete with fried crispy noodles - o my gosh, i was in 'china paradise' :D

Real tortilla soup is made with corn tortillas. It's one of the things people made hundreds of years ago to get rid of stale corn tortillas. They didn't have wheat before the Europeans came.


 

 

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Chicken Cutlet Florentine w/ Shallot and Shiitake Mushrooms(rice flour wasn't bad), Grilled Baby Eggplant w/ Balsamic & EVOO over spring salad. (no goat cheese this week need lactose free for next 3 weeks).

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I ate out for the first time in months. My big brother is visiting from the other side of the country.

We went to an upscale fish chain restaurant with a gluten-free memu. We had to die for mussles and stone crab, swordfirsh, garlic mashed potatos and mixed veggies. I'll probably dream about it tonight. Have my fingers & toes crossed that I won't be sick tomorrow!

(Big Bro picked up the tab...yay !)


Positive improvement from elimination diet. Mother dx'd by Mayo Clinic in late 1980s. Negative blood tests and Upper & Lower GI biopsy. Parathyroidectomy 12/09. Recurring high calcium level 4/10. Gluten-free 4/10. Soy & Dairy Free 6/10. Corn free 7/10. Grain free except rice 8/10. Legume free 6/11. Fighting the battle of the battle within myself, and I'm going to win!

As of 2/12, tolerating dairy, corn, legumes and some soy, but I limit soy to tamari sauce or modest soy additives. Won't ever try quinoa again!

Discoid Lupus from skin biopsy 2011, discovered 2/12 when picking up medical records. Systemic Lupus Dx 6/12. Shingles 10/12.

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I did not invent this problem about old gluteny ovens. I don't know if there is scientific proof or not, however almost everyone on celiac.com has to bake their baked items in a completely gluten-free oven or suffer from the effects. It is part of the standard procedure. Certainly you must have heard about it before now?? Just this last week both my boyfriend and I got CC'd from someone not following this protocol. We did not know what happened and then finally figured it out. Like I enquired before, it is possible perhaps to clean the oven with old fashioned brushed-on lye (Easy Off) without throwing it out. The spray on kind seems to be far less effective in this area. I'd like to know about this too actually, i.e., if the brushed on lye actually works on getting rid of the gluten or not. Otherwise it takes 600 degrees in a self cleaning oven to work for certain.

Not my experience. And, based on what I have read here since 2004, not the experience of the majority here. There is a small but vocal minority supporting this view.


Peter

Diagnosis by biopsy of practically non-existent villi; gluten-free since July 2000. I was retested five years later and the biopsy was normal. You can beat this disease!

Type 1 (autoimmune) diabetes diagnosed in March 1986

Markham, Ontario (borders on Toronto)

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I ate out for the first time in months. My big brother is visiting from the other side of the country.

We went to an upscale fish chain restaurant with a gluten-free memu. We had to die for mussles and stone crab, swordfirsh, garlic mashed potatos and mixed veggies. I'll probably dream about it tonight. Have my fingers & toes crossed that I won't be sick tomorrow!

(Big Bro picked up the tab...yay !)

YAY!!!! It is always good to be able to go out and have a success!


Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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Okay I splurged......I have to be REAl careful with tomatoes and basically avoid them but I so wanted some lasagne. It was WONDERFUL! Made it myself with Italian sauage and gluten free lasagne noodles. My daughter and husband both thought it was good too. Keeping my fingers crossed that I won't start itching!! :blink:


Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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For lunch today:

Pork Chop

Carrot Fries--mmm so good! I have to admit they didn't make it to my plate. I ate them while the meat was cooking :rolleyes:


Gluten-Free as of September 2011

Brian, there's a message in my Alphabits...it says 'Oooooooo'.

Peter, those are Cheerios.

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I found some hormel italian sausage at wallmart gluten-free. Pre cooked ,so I made sausage and basil pizza last night. Tonight pasta salad,and perhaps pigs n blanket. Not facey,but comforting .


How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of these.

George Washington Carver

Blood work positive 4/10

Endo biopsy positive 5/10

Gluten free 5/10

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Home made chicken pot pie with biscuit topping.


CeeCee

Allergic to: wheat, peanuts and Penicillin

1995 severe anaphylactic reaction to Wheat

Gluten free since Sept. 2006

"Failure is only the opportunity to begin again, more intelligently"--- Henry Ford

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We had gluten-free pizza with shrimp, bacon, serrano pepper, onion, mozzarella and parmesan cheese. First time I used the Chebe pizza mix and I'm in love with it! Had that with a cup of rich homemade cream of mushroom soup. The best part was dipping the thicker end pieces of crust in the soup, which was a pretty basic recipe but I added a wee bit of sauteed fennel and it was sublime. DP was really happy about the pizza, said he'd be happy to have it once a week but suggested I omit the shrimp.


Positive improvement from elimination diet. Mother dx'd by Mayo Clinic in late 1980s. Negative blood tests and Upper & Lower GI biopsy. Parathyroidectomy 12/09. Recurring high calcium level 4/10. Gluten-free 4/10. Soy & Dairy Free 6/10. Corn free 7/10. Grain free except rice 8/10. Legume free 6/11. Fighting the battle of the battle within myself, and I'm going to win!

As of 2/12, tolerating dairy, corn, legumes and some soy, but I limit soy to tamari sauce or modest soy additives. Won't ever try quinoa again!

Discoid Lupus from skin biopsy 2011, discovered 2/12 when picking up medical records. Systemic Lupus Dx 6/12. Shingles 10/12.

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For lunch today:

Pork Chop

Carrot Fries--mmm so good! I have to admit they didn't make it to my plate. I ate them while the meat was cooking :rolleyes:

I love carrot fries!!! We usually make them with salt, pepper, brown sugar and cinnamon. What did you put on them?

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I love carrot fries!!! We usually make them with salt, pepper, brown sugar and cinnamon. What did you put on them?

Have to ask...what are carrot fries? And how do you prepare them? They sound great.

Tonight...theater popcorn and Puss & Boots with a special nine year old.


Lisa

Gluten Free - August 15, 2004

"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien

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Have to ask...what are carrot fries? And how do you prepare them? They sound great.

Tonight...theater popcorn and Puss & Boots with a special nine year old.

We make ours by cutting up baby carrots (you can use regular too) and putting some olive oil and seasoning on them. In an earlier post I think I said that I put salt, pepper, brown sugar and cinnamon...it's all to taste. Then bake at 350 til the carrots are tender and slightly brown, I think it took about 20 min in my oven.

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